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Moderated by: Weird Occurance Lord Denida

Welcome to GT For All!

Posted 2 Months ago by Weird Occurance

I'm grateful to all of you who are giving this site a chance and I feel honored to be the owner of the latest continuation of the GameTalk Legacy. I will do my best to help make this community thrive.

That said, this site will be built first and foremost on Accountability; that is, accountability for moderators, admins, and users in the community. Therefore, the rules were rethought and have been posted here:
https://gtforall.com/rules
Key Takeaways from Rules
  • Moderators are accountable for moderating fairly
  • Users are to treat each other with respect
  • GT For All is a blank slate. We will not be banning users for previous transgressions on previous iterations of GT.

    Moderation
    As you can also see from the signatures at the bottom of the rules, I have made Lord Denida a Global Mod. Despite his recent negative behavior on GTX0, he is aware of the consequences of failing to uphold the respect and accountability clauses put forth in the Rules.

    Ultimately, I needed someone with a Moderation style I was familiar with and he was someone I trusted to help me maintain the integrity of this site.

    It's been a long time since Lord Denida was a moderator, and we are not children anymore. The rules reflect the mature state of GT For All and both Lord Denida and I plan to uphold that status, while also making sure disrespectful behavior is penalized in accordance with its severity.

    I've pinned thread in the Hot Takes forum to discuss this decision, along with any other past GT Drama, so we can get it all out in the open and begin to heal:
    https://gtforall.com/thread/reflections_on_gtx0_drama
    I encourage you to leverage that thread as needed.

    With this stated, it is still important for us to clarify that you will only be banned for rule breaking on GT For All. Nothing else.

    If this site gains momentum in the future, we'll put out a call for more Moderators and take their behavior on this site into account during the hiring process.

    Site Changes

    This is the fun part and I can't wait for you all to explore the site and interact with it.

    I have been busy these last few weeks, learning my way around the code (with Xhin's help, of course!), and adding some features to the site that I hope will be received well.

    1) Hot Takes Forum

    The Hot Takes Forum can be viewed here:
    https://gtforall.com/forum/hot-takes
    This forum is our response to the recent debates and arguments that have taken place in the Politics/World forum.
    We're offering you the ability to debate a variety of topics, from site drama to current events. However, be advised that supremacist content will absolutely never be allowed in this forum or anywhere else on GT For All.
    Supremacist content is what we're defining as the derision of other users or groups of people for immutable characteristics.

    Discussions about ACAB, Black Lives Matter, Feminism, Women's Rights, Men's Rights, and any other topics that can lead to healthy debates are encouraged, but we will not tolerate violent or insulting speech. Additionally, Nazi content inherently violates these principles and will be disallowed.

    Please respect each other when discussing and debating.

    2) Complaints Forum

    The Complaints Forum can be viewed here:
    https://gtforall.com/forum/complaints
    We encourage your Complaints. We want to know what's going well and what's not working for you. Please keep your complaints constructive and polite. We'll appreciate the feedback.

    3) Awwww

    The Awwww Forum can be viewed here:
    https://gtforall.com/forum/awwww
    And yes, it needs that many w's :)

    We all need a pick-me-up and that forum is going to be nothing but good vibes all the time. Pictures and stories about pets, family, nature, anything, as well as jokes, memes, and fun content can be shared in the Awwww forum. Keep the good vibes coming!

    4) Mature Content Flag

    Yes, I know what you're thinking, but give me a second to explain.

    We're all adults. A lot of users here swear excessively. Also, some content in Sexuality may be more on the erotic side as we're inclined to talk about sexual experiences - and that's okay!

    All we want is to have that content marked 'mature' by users and moderators.

    When content is flagged, it will be hidden behind a Mature Content label by default. When clicked, it will show itself - just like the blocked content handling on GTX0.

    But we know click-to-show can get very annoying very fast, so we also built a Settings Panel into your Accounts so that you can always show (or hide) this content by default.

    You're still allowed to post this content and users who don't want to see it don't have to; it's the best of both worlds.

    5) Social Media
    You can view GT For All's Social Media here:
    https://gtforall.com/social_media
    While the official Discord link is available in our Social Media page, we hope that the unofficial Discord may permit us to include a link to their community as well. I'll be reaching out to the owners to talk about this in the next few days, but would like to emphasize that even with their permission to surface an invite, this Discord will remain a free, unofficial entity and the owners will continue to own and operate that Discord as they see fit, regardless of GT For All's policies and principles.

    Please also be aware of the new teamgtforall@gmail.com email address. You may reach out there with any Complaints or Requests that you'd like handled more privately.

    I think that about sums it up!

    Welcome again to the community and we hope you will enjoy your stay here. So...

    Pull up a chair, pour yourself a glass of your favorite fizzy beverage, and make yourself at home.

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  • There are 39 Replies


    What are your future plans for the site?

    2 Months ago
    Moonray

    What are your future plans for the site?


    Good question!

    Right now, I'm trying to stabilize things a bit. There were a few bugs associated with the switch that must be handled before anything else - Xhin's been tackling some of these (thank you!), I'm now available to help with more.

    After this immediate struggle, I think we're going to push to advertise the site to hopefully expand our userbase a bit, while also adding a few more features from Xhin and my feature roadmap - once those are itemized and organized, I'll make them transparent in a post somewhere.

    I hope this place will help repair some of the community. I know we had a slight consistency hiccup this morning, but we're working on it and contending with the new Mature feature, still trying to plan out exactly how to apply that most effectively.

    I'm hoping that with more careful moderation, we can try to repair the community.
    My current goal right now is making this place feel welcoming to people.
    Ultimately, I'd like to be able to promote the unofficial discord, but this place needs to be reputable first.

    Outside of that, I'm open to suggestions!
    After things stabilize, I'll be creating a Requests forum for ideas to gauge what you all might be looking for. Now just didn't seem like a great time lol

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    And what about the site affiliated discord you were given ownership of? Or hell for that matter if you want that discord, not that even I think that place matters currently, just wondering.

    2 Months ago
    Grey Echelon

    And what about the site affiliated discord you were given ownership of? Or hell for that matter if you want that discord, not that even I think that place matters currently, just wondering.


    As of now, I'm keeping the site affiliated discord alive, but might ask someone else for help moderating it, as Discord's really not my forte.

    The Hell Discord, I'm not sure what to do with.

    Honestly, I didn't like that it was founded as a response to the initial Discord split, as I felt that it minimized a lot of the pain experienced by the members who split into the new Discord. I felt a bit guilty for being there once I learned that that was why it was founded, which is why I left initially.

    In solidarity of the split community, my preference would be to not promote Hell at this time.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Honestly, I didn't like that it was founded as a response to the initial Discord split

    Huh? I thought it was made before that. And it was founded because I wanted a place to be still because I wouldn't be welcome in the main site affiliated discord probably (didn't work out because no one used it after the reveal) coupled with people who don't feel like they belonged in the main server and/or were confusingly may or may not have been banned like tnu. Those were the only reasons in my mind, everything else was secondary.

    I did know that there were plans to make a new discord before this, but I wasn't thinking of that while this was happening. I dunno why that of all things became the consensus for why it was founded.

    Also as you're probably aware tnu owns it now anyway. But I'm not asking you to promote it, just was curious and if you want the whole picture. Place is dead as hell (pun intended) and until nobody is allowed or welome on gt proper or it's main discord there's not even a founding reason for it.

    2 Months ago
    Grey Echelon

    Grey, thanks for the explanation there.

    I was told it was a response to the schism initially, but I don't remember who told me this. Perhaps it was hearsay.

    Either way, yes, let's hold off on promoting it. Tnu can continue to own it, I'm not touching that.

    Let's see where things go in the future.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Ya. I also have a advertising method related to discord (for main gtx0 server) I know of that I floated to Xhin but I guess he didn't have time for. It might possibly bring new people in, possibly even people from old gametalk if they recognize it, but it's probably unlikely they'll stay. It probably won't work out but might be worth a try. It does require admin privileges so only you or someone you appoint to that status could do it. If you're interested in that, I could show you or someone you appoint how and you can do whatever with that knowledge.

    2 Months ago
    Grey Echelon

    I also have a advertising method related to discord (for main gtx0 server) I know of that I floated to Xhin but I guess he didn't have time for. It might possibly bring new people in, possibly even people from old gametalk if they recognize it, but it's probably unlikely they'll stay. It probably won't work out but might be worth a try. It does require admin privileges so only you or someone you appoint to that status could do it. If you're interested in that, I could show you or someone you appoint how and you can do whatever with that knowledge.


    He mentioned a vague idea to me, but didn't give details.

    Hit me up on Discord Jade22020#4746 and we can discuss.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Disappointed. Good luck, but I will not be participating here as I had planned.

    2 Months ago
    Rat

    Disappointed. Good luck, but I will not be participating here as I had planned.


    I understand. I won't try to force you to change your mind, but I'm always willing to talk about anything in PMs.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    CyberTrump, I’m tagging your post personal attacks, largely for the first paragraph.

    However, I’ll respond to several of your more serious points:
    1) His moderator name at original GT was Lord Denida for half of his time modding there. Returning to that name has no further meaning.

    2) I’ve already explained my rationale. You’re allowed to disagree. Please do it respectfully, without personal attacks.

    3) The profanity filter is still being rethought. There’s a thread about it below. It looks more like it’ll be a content filter for potentially triggering content, including drug-related, self-harm-related, etc content. You can read that thread for additional details. Thanks!

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Fake news. What’s wrong it sticking with a name that didn’t have Lord in it?


    Fact;
    https://web.archive.org/web/20061018222812/http://www.gametalk.com/talk/pointless/
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    2 Months ago
    Lord Denida

    One more time and you’re banned, Cyber Trump. Not tolerating this behavior here.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Trelane, name calling will not be allowed here. Listen to Weird Occurance.

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    2 Months ago
    Lord Denida

    Didn’t issue a ban. Issued a warning for personal attacks.

    This last one is baiting. And earns an hour kick.

    Congratulations on becoming my first banned user :)
    Achievement unlocked.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Duke Diez Nuhtzz WO and me warned you.

    Misbehaving will always result in consequences.

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    2 Months ago
    Lord Denida

    Duke Diez Nuhtzz

    Forgive me but is that my long lost friend deez?

    2 Months ago
    Elite

    An eye for an eye is not an attractive policy.

    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Are you really going to keep deleting every reply without addressing what’s being said? Like out of all the people to select as a mod, why someone with Denida’s past and his history of how he treats people? Just because he said he was “Sowwy” and promised to do “better”? I thought we were all supposed to be adults here? Instead we are playing make believe and pretend like it’s Kindergarten.


    Finally! A constructive comment!

    I’ve covered this a few times in a few threads.

    You know I’m not in the discords. And my social circle within GT is quite small.
    I considered approaching other users, but with only a week and a half or two weeks to launch, I didn’t have time to build trust and rapport with community members I’d never interacted with before.

    And choosing someone who had zero involvement in the February drama was critical to me for neutrality’s sake.

    Nobody at this site is a saint - just look at yourself, doing exactly what you chose to criticize, and not long after saying you’d try to reflect on yourself and how you feel about things.

    I’m not tolerating targeted harassment and I’m not changing my mind on this just because you’re harassing me over it.

    He wasn’t the perfect candidate, but he was the best chance for objective moderation.

    And like I said before, he was writing an apology before Xhin even offered me the site. It doesn’t make up for months of harassment. And doesn’t absolve him of wrongdoing. But I had to make a choice that made sense. Now you can keep fighting me here or go to my hot takes forum where everyone else is politely discussing this - when you’ve waited out your bans in a week.

    Thank you.

    Now tagging and banning for ban evasion.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Yeah because I’m doing what he did for 5 months.


    And that somehow makes it acceptable?

    I don’t think you understand how pointless that really is.


    I do understand. But I value this site. And will keep it clean of harassment.

    We can do this allllll night.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    He wasn’t the perfect candidate, but he was the best chance for objective moderation.


    Listen, none of this matters by any means and I'm frankly too tired to anyway, and I know I was responsible for smaller forums but... did no one notice me at all, all the years I was a moderator? Lol.

    2 Months ago
    Jet Presto

    and I know I was responsible for smaller forums but... did no one notice me at all, all the years I was a moderator?


    I recommended you several times, including earlier today.

    2 Months ago
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Thanks. Mostly just nursing a very slightly bruised ego at the moment is all.

    2 Months ago
    Jet Presto

    Listen, none of this matters by any means and I'm frankly too tired to anyway, and I know I was responsible for smaller forums but... did no one notice me at all, all the years I was a moderator? Lol.


    You are one of the people I considered, Jet. But I don’t know you.

    You’re a good mod in your forum, I liked your rules, but you never showed interest in a site-wide thing. I think I remember you even asking Xhin to only instate you in Entertainment and Media, nowhere else.

    I’d be open to asking for your help in the future, because I know you’re experienced and handled GTX0 for years.
    But I didn’t know you well enough to know if I could trust you with the knowledge I’d be taking over or about the domain name or any other incremental things before my announcement.

    The only reason I didn’t approach you is because I didn’t know you, had no experience with you, and didn’t know anything about you. At all. I don’t have any issues with you.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    I think Weird Occurance's main issue is familiarity. I know you, I've worked with you for ten years at this point. You've been legitimately neutral throughout this entire year somehow. However Weird Occurance is not familiar with your moderation style, and she's uncomfortable relying on people she has no experience with. I think these are understandable concerns when taking on a gigantic new responsibility.

    2 Months ago
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    You’re a good mod in your forum, I liked your rules, but you never showed interest in a site-wide thing.


    Well, if we're interested in also re-litigating some issues with GTX0, a big part of the reason I was never super interested in site-wide moderating was that for a long time, there were so many mods with different styles and different rules. There was a sort of lack of organization in that attempt to be organized that made it feel like too many cooks in the kitchen, and I didn't want to step on other moderators' toes.

    And then things kept escalating in other places and I'll admit that I personally didn't often feel like my input was particularly valued sometimes, so I figured I'd just stay put in Entertainment. I *did* volunteer to mod Video Games at one point in addition to Entertainment - I figured those forums could probably even be put under one umbrella, and that forum saw plenty of drama over the years, so it's not like I was looking to avoid it from a mod perspective. It was just too confusing about who was responsible for what, organizationally.

    I'd certainly be open to modding such forums at some point in the future if necessary, but I would say if you're thinking about doing so at some point, or if it ever gets to that point, I'd recommend having a stronger structure in place for how moderators would work. (I'd posit that it would be bad to have global mods in the first place. Maaaaybe like, "the admin team" that could oversee larger disputes, or complaints about moderators themselves, but not having a bunch of different people be sort of responsible for every forum.)

    2 Months ago
    Jet Presto

    Thank you for your response, Jet. I appreciate this context and understand your hesitance more clearly now.

    I'd certainly be open to modding such forums at some point in the future if necessary, but I would say if you're thinking about doing so at some point, or if it ever gets to that point, I'd recommend having a stronger structure in place for how moderators would work. (I'd posit that it would be bad to have global mods in the first place. Maaaaybe like, "the admin team" that could oversee larger disputes, or complaints about moderators themselves, but not having a bunch of different people be sort of responsible for every forum.)


    I’m relieved that I haven’t wounded your ego enough that you’d still be open to this one day.

    My thought was that launch was going to be reasonably chaotic, so I’d need one other person to globally mod alongside me.

    If more users come and this place gets a heartbeat, I’ll open up to local mods.

    I didn’t see Denida as a be all, end all, perfect solution.

    I just needed someone I could trust to help me out with, well, THIS lol

    That said, no hard feelings, right? I’m open to discussing more here, or privately as you see fit.
    Discord: Jade22020#4746

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Hopefully this subsides somehow

    2 Months ago
    Gr.- .- .-ey Echelon

    Hopefully this subsides somehow


    Agree.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    I read this whole thread without understanding any of it.
    I’m not competent to comment further. Maybe I shouldn’t have commented even this much!

    2 Months ago
    chiarizio
     

    I read this whole thread without understanding any of it.


    It was a description with changes to GTFA. Did that help?


    I’m not competent to comment further. Maybe I shouldn’t have commented even this much!


    We welcome anything you or anyone wants to say.

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    2 Months ago
    Lord Denida

    I read this whole thread without understanding any of it.


    It got spammed partway through so there are some chunks missing that I responded to. I imagine that might be confusing.

    I’m not competent to comment further. Maybe I shouldn’t have commented even this much!


    All opinions are welcome.

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    All opinions are welcome.

    In my opinion canteloupe is nearly always nigh inedible.

    Oh, wait … you probably meant “all germane opinions”.
    Sorry! (sort of!)

    2 Months ago
    chiarizio
     

    In my opinion cantaloupe is nearly always nigh inedible.


    Hard disagree.
    … but honeydew is better, nonetheless. :)

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Very sophisticated discussion here.

    I appreciate how clean and PC this board is. PC Principal would be proud.

    2 Months ago
    Within Baba Ba Ba ba

    Hello Weird Occurance! Never met ya but kudos to you for grabbing the baton and continuing with the GT relay race. I've been using GT since 2004 I think? 2005 maybe? I don't remember anymore to tell you the truth. But I'm always lurking around somewhere even if I don't post as much as I used to, so your (and Xhin's) efforts arent in vain. :)

    2 Months ago
    Preed360

    Hello Weird Occurance! Never met ya but kudos to you for grabbing the baton and continuing with the GT relay race. I've been using GT since 2004 I think? 2005 maybe? I don't remember anymore to tell you the truth. But I'm always lurking around somewhere even if I don't post as much as I used to, so your (and Xhin's) efforts arent in vain. :)


    Always good to keep this place alive, even for the lurkers and people who just drop by.
    Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and I hope you stay a while :)

    I started using original GT around that time too - 2005 - 2006, maybe? What forums were you active in back on orig GT? I went by a million names back in the day haha

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

    Oh I was really into the Boxcube forum and Revo forum (so the Wii's originally name before it was called "Wii"). Then I migrated over to the Smash Bros forum afterwards which was pretty active until the originally GT shut down. That happened right when I was about to go to University which really bummed me out. I missed all my little gaming buddies. :( How about you? What's your story?

    2 Months ago
    Preed360

    I think I started around the Pokemon Forum (occasionally jumping into the Smash Bros forum, mostly to lurk) - I went by Articuno Lover / Mew Ruler a lot of the time back in those days.

    After a while, I started frequenting Depression under this name and then became incredibly active on Pointless up until maybe a month before the site went down. I think that's where I spent most of my time back in the day.

    I remember I found this site back in '04 when I was looking up stuff about shiny Pokemon and found a thing about a "Rainbow Mew on Victory Road". A year later, I reran a search for that thread and found this place and then had a hard time leaving.

    When I went to university in 2010, GTX0 really took a backseat, but I came back a few years ago and haven't left hahah

    It's so nice to meet an old reg. :)

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    2 Months ago
    Weird Occurance

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